I can't believe anyone still listens to circus clowns like Donald Trump.

Birthers are so laughable.

I'm with you caffeinated. Obama did what he should have done with Trump, ignored his antics. If he wanted to help charities he should have just donated the money. He made himself look like a villain.

Goerge, it's ok to be upset that he won but please think before you post comments. No promises is a good thing. You can't always deliver on promises. It is going to take a lot to move this country and the world back in the right direction. Not four years or even eight can do it. In this past decade the way the US has operated for so long has changed drastically so it will take a lot for change. Be realistic please. No democrat or republican can do it in that short of time, especially when the parties aren't working together.

as a reply to ashley......dont forget..we had a democratic president a democratic congress and a democratic senate...and what got done to solve the problems..nothing....reagan put the country back on track after only 4 years...bill clinton continued that prosperity and in fact, broaded it......obama ...was a terrible president and he had all the democrats and our institutions on his side

george, I too remember the two years of democratic majority that Obama squandered. He was far from a liberal in that tenure. He was a bland centrist. The stimulus generally started during Bush's lame duck period, and was much more conservative than recommended by most economists. He caved and continued the Bush tax cuts.

So yeah, I am somewhat disappointed in those first two years, because of the reality that he played them like a conservative instead of using the power that he had.

Do you think Romney would have released his college transcripts for $5 mil to a charity?
Would YOU ?
I'm gonna guess your answer is yes, $5 mil for breast cancer research.
What is Obama hiding ?
And by the way, that race card crap is really getting stale.

$6 billion was spent on this election, and you are worried about the antics of Donald the Clown.

Your comments over-exemplify the failings of the GOP. The GOP machine will have to quit devoting so much of their panderings to extremists if they want GOP platforms to be successful going forward.

Reform thyself GOP, so I can vote for you again.

Al Mount--do you think that Romney would have released additional tax returns for $5 million dollars? What is he hiding? I mean, even his own father released far more than 2 years worth. Personally I think there must have been information in there that was more damaging to be public than the damage he took keeping it private, and that is saying something.

it was a 75% to 25% split....among mormons...by the way....unemployment among blacs is over 16% but they all fell in lock step.....my only point is.....they voted as a block regardless of issues.......

Truth be told people are going to vote for someone they can relate to, do you think the 98% relates to someone they feel is like them or a rich white guy. The latino vote went more for Obama too, the reason because they feel that the "other" guy doesn't like them because of the perception from the party that represents them.

How are those riots going, Nostrodamus?

I've scanned the news. No reports of old guys rioting on Old State Rd.

I guess I can safely drop down to Eureka.

No riots unless you're on the campus at what the southerners call "Ole Miss." Granted it was a smallish protest, but still...

Atlantic Wire reports:

"Ole Miss Students Weren't Very Good at Rioting Over Obama"

BWAHAHA!

you are right......we can only hope....that is what he said...4 years ago ....and hope doesnt get things done

The Dow is up 63% since President Obama was elected in 2003. It's gaining today. Look at the long term. We were told Bill Clinton's tax increase of 1993 would lead to the end of the world as we know it. It led to the longest domestic economic expansion, for the majority of Americans, in 30 years. We were told Bush's tax cuts would grow the economy, but they and the other GOP policies led to the worst financial collapse since 1929.

If the GOP will cooperate with the President, who was reelected by a large electoral college majority and by a popular vote majority, and pass a jobs bill, coupled with a return to the Clinton-era tax rates, closing all the tax loopholes so that Mitt Romney and Donald Trump aren't paying lower tax rates than St. Louis County cops and principals and firefighters, and we trim spending we don't need, the country will be roaring back again. No deficit, as we saw under Clinton, we can pay the debt down, and we'll be on the right track.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_in_New_Zealand

Somalia is a libertarian paradise. Go Galt!

Yes they did, proving my point that they've been taught the same lies you have.

This from a party that segregates everybody. Religious/Non-Religious, Rich/Poor, Gay/Straight, Male/Female, White/Black, see RDBet's senseless posts for the rest. That's what being divisive is. It's what you tools aren't smart enough to see yourselves doing on here everyday. All any of you ever do is hate. Those of us who know better, pity you. One day you may get it, but likely not, it's obvious many of you don't have that capacity.

None of that was ever the goal of the Republicans. If you evaluate where you got that opinion, then you might finally figure-out who is actually screwing you. Until then, you're just embarrassing yourself.

How many of you, while trashing Romney over his tax-return, said, "Wow, I wish I paid that percentage"? None. You all said "he needs to pay more", because you are trained that way. Deny it all you want, but it's just 1 of 1000 examples.

You've all spent months on here ragging erroneously on Republicans while clinging to the inability to understand what you're even talking about. Months of effort to intentionally misrepresent "others", telling people what "they" want, when you don't have the first clue.

You don't even know your own party's goals, much less the ability to explain how their methods work, or when they have ever worked anywhere in the world. All any of you are bright enough to do is repeat the hate you've been fed.
See, watch this.....

So...if we offer a rebuttal, I assume that is repeating hate. And if we choose not to respond, that is acknowledging that your are right? Or something like that.

Oh My! And to think, I was kind enough to help you out of some of the many fictions you trapped yourself in. Now this? If it helps you to rage senselessly against me, then you are welcome. Again! Yet, as an entrepenurial type - at some point I will have to charge counseling fees. So take a breath and try to get it together (Baby steps baby steps). These mindless generalizations and attacks do you no good.

GOP catered too much to extremists, and that lost this election cycle for them. Their divide and conquer tactics failed, and the changing demographics of this nation will make it harder for them going forward. You lay it all on me, Devon, but it is GOP strategists that today are fully aware that this country is getting less-white, less religious, cares less and less about sexuality.

Personally, I am not a big Obama fan in his first term, nor McCaskill, or Nixon. But with the GOP catering to the zanies, moderates such as myself have little choice but vote for Dems.

If the GOP reforms itself to some sense of normalcy, then come back and chat. Of course, if the GOP reforms itself, that may leave you outside their tent.

Well Devon, what can I say I am trying to imagine the size tool shed it would take to hold all of us "tools" that voted for Obama - I mean he also won the popular vote (seems I remember Ryan's and Romney's home states also went to him) - wow a tool shed as big as the USA - fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's big enough to hold 50+ million.

"Yes they did, proving my point that they've been taught the same lies you have."

- Are you insane or did you accidentally post as a reply to my post? You popped in as if you and I were having some conversation. I have no idea who you are, we were in no conversation that you appear to be picking up from and, in fact, I have never before this post, ever visited any MO Patch's.

you need to reread your comments...who is being ridiculous......at least obama cant blame it on bush anymore (not busch).....but you have to give obama credit...they vilified romney and took the focus off the economy

Gussie would have made an awesome president.

I think they meant that dense frat boy that was sort-of elected in 2000.

Gussie wasn't president? !!!? ppffffffffttt.

Another good memory dashed.
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Your prognostication skills are renowned, so I'm sure people are hanging on your every credible word.

So Msr. Kelly: care to guess the stock market's performance under Obama's first term? How about corporate profits? What information do you have beyond the consistently wrong stuff you pull out of your arse that backs up those statements?

"By the end of the year, stock market will be in the 6000 point range "

Closed above 14,000 yesterday. Of course Republicans will credit Obama with the good news. And their good fortunes.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2013/01/19/stocks-rise-sharply-obamas-first-term/1843067/

You completely ignored your previous statement, and threw in some more stuff.

What information do you have that indicates that the Dow Jones will be at 6000 by the end of December?

What data or facts are you in possession of that points to the unemployment rate being 10% by the end of the year?

Simply spouting off additional tin-foil hat delusions doesn't support your point. Give us all some background on your insight...

Anyone here know what he's talking about and can actually explain it?

Every time I ask him a direct question, he seems to change subjects or point to something abstract and tell me that it's all I "need to know..."

why............so............many...........dots.......?????

I agree with you...not a perfect world...far far from it...and everyones perception of "perfect" is different....I give Obamas team credit....a great article appeared in the New Yorker...that supports your arguement...their strategic plan was.....they couldnt run on their record so they would vilify Romney to make him appear to be out of touch with real americans.....80% of their ads focused on that aspect....by the way...by design 85% were negative...and 80% of those made romney out to be a rich white guy who got to his success on the backs of others.......it is amazing to me....America is thought and perceived to be the land of opportunity...and most of us are driven to succeed....however, obamas strategists turned that to be a bad thing and a dispicable characteristic of romney...to the point he doesnt care about the common man.....history will show what a mistake was made.....

Oh, while I don't share your political views. I think blaming the media for the perception of his being out of touch with the voters who voted Obama. Is more of a societal perception that there are some rich people don't care about people no matter how much they give to charities, you can blame that on many factors one being medial; sure, but you have upbringing, movies that villify rich people or the simple fact of environment. They see that rich people have been getting more money (proof is more millionaires now than most of history, outrageous executive pay even for failure,etc ) and the middle class and poor seem to be gettting poorer.
That to me is why the youth (most of the youths voted for Obama, stictly because they don't identify with the Republican party (whom hasn't really reached out to the youth vote, I might add) didn't really relate to Romeny.
You can rationalize that by the way the youth today want to be rappers or performers because they see their heros and idols making all this money and they think that is the only way to achieve their American dream.
There was just the same amount of negative ads on both sides, so one side blaming the others doesn't answer the real reason one why people voted the way they voted. It surely isn't because everyone wants a handout or they are racist, or the media skewing the results. Easy to point to those as a factors, but reality of it is Obama was a very popular guy in his demographic.

Germany 1921-23!

You love freedom but not democracy, while I can understand disappointment in the results to sit there and call people who think different from you stupid, makes you kind of seem bitter. A majority is a majority whether you like it or not, you have the freedom to whine but really to throw around some of the terms you use is kind of childish.